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回覆 (950): 32或64bit?
我理解两个都是32bit的,但支持win8 64bit。
cpyip
13-04-30
21:09:50
回覆 (949): 32或64bit?
 
 
我相信 Jriver 衹得 32 bit。  
 
limage
13-04-30
13:46:52
回覆 (948): 32或64bit?
玩了几天Jplay,发现装了32bit的。但我win8是64bit。是否要重新装?  
另Jriver有分32或64bit吗?因我装的Jriver是32bit。
cpyip
13-04-29
19:50:26
回覆 (947): Intel NUC
 
 
a little crack pops up  
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I guess this tiny pop ought to be a form of minor blackout of the bit stream but since it is not very disturbing and it does not happen frequently, I choose to ignore it in a way similar to ignoring the inevitable coughs during live concerts.  
 
 
limage
13-04-29
12:12:11
回覆 (946): Intel NUC
 
Limage,  
 
Your works like miracle to never miss this minor analogue point! :)  
 
rcwy
13-04-29
00:48:26
回覆 (945): Intel NUC
 
 
Perhaps simpler is better. Mine goes near flawlessly with one pc feeding the DAC. Just beautiful except once in a while, a little crack pops up very much like the stylus staggering over some tiny debris. This makes it more like analogue, isn’t it?  
 
 
limage
13-04-28
21:40:23
回覆 (944): Intel NUC
just an update on my two pc configuration of jplay. it solves my clicks and pops problem on pc configuration. my problem is entirely caused by the low processing power of my audio pc.  
now the problems with two pc configuration are surfacing now. there are many rough edges on this setup. i list the problems just in case you are trying to set it up.  
1. two pc detection is poor. so you have to try a few times before the control pc can detect the audio pc.  
2. according to the manual all settings of the audio pc will be through the control pc. this is simply not true. when i tried to change the mode from river to others, the system just crashed. it defaults the audio device to the on board device. after that i can't connect the control to the audio pc even after rebooting both pc. i might have to reinstall the jplay on the control pc. by the way, i can change to any mode and play without a problem at the audio pc.  
3. the communication from the player e.g jriver or foobar to the jplay stops randomly. the player thinks it is waiting for the jplay while jplay has already stopped. according to jplay support, it is to do with my wifi connection. they recommended me to go for wired connection. i don't buy that. anyway i will try sometime and see whether it helps or not.  
 
conclusion: i think jplay developers are just fluky about get this software sound better than other player. as software developers, i wouldn't hire them! while i hate it, it might end up with using linux instead!
drwkng
13-04-28
12:10:21
回覆 (943): Intel NUC
i don't think NUC is such a good deal. by the time you add all the necessary peripherals and system software, it is more expensive and less powerful than an equivalent priced laptop.
drwkng
13-04-28
10:53:48
回覆 (942): Intel NUC
cpyip
13-04-28
10:27:46
回覆 (941): hires music download
如果用Intel NUC(i3 cpu)作Audio PC,不知好不好?NUC暂时只有i3。  
问过Jplay,說最好是i7 3770t,其次才是i5、 i3。
cpyip
13-04-28
08:01:48
回覆 (940): hires music download
you might find here some hires and lowres files for free: http://hifistatement.com/de/downloads . the page is in german, but I could help out if there might be some questions. I tried this page to make some comparison between the resolutions.
der_yeti
13-04-24
00:38:45
回覆 (939): DSD music download
"The safest bet for the moment, IMHO, is to rip known recordings from CDs among friends. "  
 
 
Looking for good friends......
ackcheng
13-04-23
20:48:09
回覆 (938): DSD music download
i don't even have dac that plays dsd. take a look at channel classic, they claimed to provide master files.
drwkng
13-04-23
15:17:15
回覆 (937): DSD music download
 
 
Thanks for the link. Have you tried their recordings?  
 
One thing I should remind friends here though. DSD does not necessarily mean good recording. 7 out of 10 are in fact shit stuff. The PCM camp doesn't look any better either. Most are poor recordings, let alone those up-sampled swindles.  
 
Better watch out, gentlemen. The safest bet for the moment, IMHO, is to rip known recordings from CDs among friends.  
 
 
limage
13-04-23
14:51:28
回覆 (936): DSD music download
i suppose this is known among you guys.  
 
http://dsd-guide.com/where-can-you-find-dsd-music-downloads
drwkng
13-04-23
11:23:09
回覆 (935): JPlay 2PC
 
 
this is really chicken and egg situation  
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Exactly. Don't forget BTW that many recordings of the Golden Era have already been digitized for CD production. Offering these master files for download incurs virtually no additional costs. There is not even the need to print pamphlets, cover art, nor packaging which account for the bulk of costs in CD production.  
 
The best way to combat piracy is by cutting prices down to a bloody fucking level where no one would bother to copy. The lower the price, the bigger the market and hence the greater the profit potential. It may even turn out to be a flourishing avenue to draw funds to salvage the dying recording industry. Who knows?  
 
limage
13-04-23
10:48:58
回覆 (934): JPlay 2PC
i think you are confusing the issues. CD is 44.1. period. you can have CAS files as a copy of that CD. so what does that leave us? i think when people talking about CAS and CD, they are referring to music playing thru a cd player and music playing thru a computer.  
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No confusion ! I was referring to CD being played back from CD player ! Yes Master Limage does have CD ripped for CAS playback, but our main concentration of listening was clearly defined between the formats.
daiwok
13-04-22
16:50:41
回覆 (933): JPlay 2PC
I can do better, I will go to Limage's den and pour water onto his computer! Let's see if that helps! :-)  
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no! just on the harddisk. i am sure the music just flow.
drwkng
13-04-22
16:45:50
回覆 (931): JPlay 2PC
Not all CAS are guaranteed to be sonically superior over CD. Once again we are in the hands of recording engineers, remastering "experts" and commercial avenues in up selling what is better or what is best.  
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i think you are confusing the issues. CD is 44.1. period. you can have CAS files as a copy of that CD. so what does that leave us? i think when people talking about CAS and CD, they are referring to music playing thru a cd player and music playing thru a computer.
drwkng
13-04-22
16:44:23
回覆 (932): JPlay 2PC
 
>Evil Kong, try a humidifier ! 8^)<  
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I can do better, I will go to Limage's den and pour water onto his computer! Let's see if that helps! :-)  
 
 
thekong
13-04-22
16:41:30
回覆 (931): JPlay 2PC
the higher the resolution of the files, the dryer the sound tends to be  
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Evil Kong, try a humidifier ! 8^)
daiwok
13-04-22
16:28:04
回覆 (930): JPlay 2PC
i can't argue about your LP listing but this is simply wrong! Redbook CD by definition is only 44.1!  
as per your udnerstanding, what you described is not two different formats. they are two different derivatives of some original source.  
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Good Doctor,  
 
I am no expert in recording but lets assume there is only one recording standard. What I am saying is that the transfer of information onto the selling format is so varied and on many occasions they are sold as "new superior" formats.  
 
so ..... my point ....  
 
Not all CAS are guaranteed to be sonically superior over CD. Once again we are in the hands of recording engineers, remastering "experts" and commercial avenues in up selling what is better or what is best.  
 
..... I am guessing that regardless the selling media, they take the original format and then create a new terminology , so in the 80's they called it Digitally Remastered ! and it was sold on LP !!!
daiwok
13-04-22
16:27:07
回覆 (929): JPlay 2PC
 
In my experience, and in my experience only, more often than not, the higher the resolution of the files, the dryer the sound tends to be. Yes, the higher resolution files do offer more details, but they also sound dry and lack musicality in general. I also have similar feeling with very expensive CD players! I really don't know why is that!  
 
I suppose someone would tell me I just like the high distortion of the LP, similar to tubes vs SS. Well, if that is the case, so be it!  
 
thekong
13-04-22
16:09:37
回覆 (928): JPlay 2PC
 
in CD I guess you have DSD, SACD, LPCD, 24/96 etc etc  
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i can't argue about your LP listing but this is simply wrong! Redbook CD by definition is only 44.1!  
as per your udnerstanding, what you described is not two different formats. they are two different derivatives of some original source.
drwkng
13-04-22
15:48:17
回覆 (927): JPlay 2PC
yes 2 different formats.  
 
What I am saying is that in each of the FORMATS - they will sell you special editions which is to up the sales and increase of the price - marketing superior reproductions:  
 
for example for LP we have  
 
Microgroove  
Direct Mastering  
Direct Metal Mastering  
180g  
200g  
200g HQ  
Virgin Vinyl  
Super quiet Vinyl  
Limited Edition pressing  
 
well you get all the bull !  
 
in CD I guess you have DSD, SACD, LPCD, 24/96 etc etc  
 
daiwok
13-04-22
15:34:42
回覆 (926): JPlay 2PC
CAS - I mean digital file  
CD - I mean the actual CD itself which is a piece of crappy plastic  
LP - I mean black magic !!! 8^)  
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if that is the case, your statement needs some explanation. when we talking about CAS and CD, are you talking the source but in two different formats?
drwkng
13-04-22
15:28:36
回覆 (925): JPlay 2PC
this is really confusing. what is CAS and CD here? you are comparing a player with a source. however when you say CD, you meant CD player. then your second statement about recording engineers etc does not make much sense.  
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Good Doctor,  
 
Sorry for the confusion, I was talking about the MEDIA of the music  
 
CAS - I mean digital file  
CD - I mean the actual CD itself which is a piece of crappy plastic  
LP - I mean black magic !!! 8^)
daiwok
13-04-22
15:13:57
回覆 (924): JPlay 2PC
 
Yes, they could charge a low price, but then they wouldn’t have much profit or incentive!  
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this is really chicken and egg situation. when apple decided to allow people to download music files, the majority opiniion at that time is that it will promote illegal copying and apple wouldn't make much out of it. now look at how much apple makes from the downloand business. the issue with classical will be the size of pie. if it is big enough, everyone wins.
drwkng
13-04-22
15:00:47
回覆 (923): JPlay 2PC
 
>simply because genuine master files are not widely available yet!<  
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Sadly, I am not sure if the labels would release their master files widely anytime soon! Unless they could come up with some protective measures with no degradation to the sound, there is no way to prevent users from downloading it once and pass them among friends casually!  
 
Yes, they could charge a low price, but then they wouldn’t have much profit or incentive!  
 
thekong
13-04-22
14:48:09
回覆 (922): JPlay 2PC
Not all CAS are guaranteed to be sonically superior over CD. Once again we are in the hands of recording engineers, remastering "experts" and commercial avenues in up selling what is better or what is best.  
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this is really confusing. what is CAS and CD here? you are comparing a player with a source. however when you say CD, you meant CD player. then your second statement about recording engineers etc does not make much sense.
drwkng
13-04-22
14:41:28
回覆 (923): JPlay 2PC
 
 
a very limited examples of CAS files sounding better than LP!  
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Very true Kong, simply because genuine master files are not widely available yet! Most hi-res files available for  
download are, shall I say, likely to be up-sampled cheats.  
 
The dozen or so 24/96 recordings from EMI are more reliable because they were re-mastered by EMI back in 2011.  
 
 
limage
13-04-22
13:50:33
回覆 (922): JPlay 2PC
 
>Only one LP was worst than the CAS.<  
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So, it seems like even with Limage’s mastery in fine tuning, he could only get a very limited examples of CAS files sounding better than LP!  
 
With my limited skill, I better not get onto the bandwagon at this time!   
 
 
 
>with regards to the A90 - it is outrageous to suggest 1000 to 1200 hours given the replicant stylus profile is already one of the most optimal !<  
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I really hope that is true, but seems like some users have confirmed Ortofon’s claim! Of course, most users, including myself, have equipment changes so often that it is hard to make judgment on the sound before and after, unless one has a new unit to compare with!  
 
Maybe I should steal Alan Soo's NIB unit for a try! :-)  
 
 
thekong
13-04-22
13:22:46
回覆 (921): JPlay 2PC
Did I get your message right that you meant those LPs that are desirable according to the magazine, Audiophile's choice remain desirable in the replaying at Limage's fever room. These LPs became unlistenable because the particular audience becomes 耳朵尖左 after he has listened to how good the rcording can be at Limage's room with his refinely tuned CAS?  
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Note this .....  
 
"Nevertheless, it seems if you want the best recording reproduction you should not limit yourself ! the key to me personally is you must process, the original LP version as a benchmark as this was the very first transfer from Master Tape or even dare I say Reel to Reel."  
 
Only one LP was worst than the CAS. Most LP played or even CD played in Limage's den is superb ! CAS can hold itself and even be better, its all a matter of how good the source is. This is why some of us look for certain labels, certain first pressings etc. This is the also the same for CAS. Not all CAS are guaranteed to be sonically superior over CD. Once again we are in the hands of recording engineers, remastering "experts" and commercial avenues in up selling what is better or what is best.
daiwok
13-04-22
12:51:14
回覆 (920): JPlay 2PC
It was mentioned that the radical stylus of the A90 only last for 1000-1200 hours of peak performance!  
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This is another kind of bollocks people talk about in the audio world ! My Nagoaka MP 500 says 150 hrs you must change the stylus !! shxt ! it has only just run in by then !!  
 
with regards to the A90 - it is outrageous to suggest 1000 to 1200 hours given the replicant stylus profile is already one of the most optimal ! with optimal stylus profiles the wearing of the stylus is minimal once setup properly ! Jan Allaerts cartridges have a life of 10,000 hrs ! that stylus profile is very similar which I believe is a Gyger S.  
 
In fact you guys should look out for the white powder on the front of your carts. This is not cocaine but still can be snorted ! this is the polishing of your diamond from the vinyl !! yes if the profile is worn or you are not setup properly, you are producing cocaine on your front end !!  
 
For those who need their stylus profile to be checked, I have an industrial microscope which allows me to see the polishing marks on the stylus faces. If I do fine that they are wearing away - which I should, then I will do the decent thing and bin them for you !!! 8^) at no charge !
daiwok
13-04-22
12:47:17
回覆 (915): JPlay 2PC
Daiwok Hing,  
 
Did I get your message right that you meant those LPs that are desirable according to the magazine, Audiophile's choice remain desirable in the replaying at Limage's fever room. These LPs became unlistenable because the particular audience becomes 耳朵尖左 after he has listened to how good the rcording can be at Limage's room with his refinely tuned CAS?  
 
^^
rcwy
13-04-22
12:41:36
回覆 (919): JPlay 2PC
For the fact that LP loses rather too easily to CAS prompts me to re-tune my analogue system, in particular,  
the cartridge adjustments. A 0.34 mm adjustment on the VTA has brought, quite amazingly, tangible improvements  
over the texture/particle of that deadly cello from Du Pre. Now a new battle begins………  
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It did puzzle me ! in fact I was listening to the very same record only a couple of days ago and it did not sound too bad, be it mine is a MSG reissue version ! 8^)  
 
Now these kind of tricks I have seen outside in commercial dealers where they purposely badly tune a system that you think you wanted - only to sell you something much more lavish and expensive which in reality is worst sounding ! @@
daiwok
13-04-22
12:40:46
回覆 (918): JPlay 2PC
 
It would be a shame if the A90's stylus could really only last for 1000-1200 hours!  
 
The repair / retip services from Ortofon is very expensive at Euro 2000, for a completely new motor and cantilever assembly!  
 
Hopefully, Diawok's cartridge master could get hold of that Replicant Stylus 100 and do a proper retip when needed.  
 
thekong
13-04-22
12:26:05
回覆 (917): JPlay 2PC
 
 
Yea I know. My A90 has been heavily abused over the last 3 years with more than 1200 hours of mileage  
under her belt. I have a fully overhauled Linn standing by but the installation job is much too daunting, you see.  
 
My last cartridge lasted 9 years. Hopefully this A90 may survive another 3 years at least. Now she seems  
to be more than okay!  
 
 
limage
13-04-22
12:08:59
回覆 (916): JPlay 2PC
 
It was mentioned that the radical stylus of the A90 only last for 1000-1200 hours of peak performance!  
 
So, Limage, maybe you need a new cartridge as well! :-)  
 
 
thekong
13-04-22
11:54:21
回覆 (915): JPlay 2PC
 
 
For the fact that LP loses rather too easily to CAS prompts me to re-tune my analogue system, in particular,  
the cartridge adjustments. A 0.34 mm adjustment on the VTA has brought, quite amazingly, tangible improvements  
over the texture/particle of that deadly cello from Du Pre. Now a new battle begins………  
 
 
limage
13-04-22
11:48:15