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回覆 (38): Pink Triangle
i remember when i firstt tried this. i just threw up. it never ceases to amaze me how awful this can be.  
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You are suppose to eat the pie first then 8 pints of beer not 8 pints of beer first !!
daiwok
13-04-12
14:29:44
回覆 (35): Pink Triangle
 
>I think SME V was rolled out in mid or late 80s.<  
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Yes, I think around 1986! I got mine from Hong Kong during the summer holiday, and it costed something like $8,000 or $8,800!  
 
thekong
13-04-12
14:28:53
回覆 (37): Pink Triangle
Let's fix a good day and good time visiting your big lenco la. Will also invite some die hard vinyl lovers and the host of vinylparadise.com if you don't mind.  
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I don't mind if you guys don't mind 2W amps @@ !
daiwok
13-04-12
14:28:36
回覆 (36): Pink Triangle
Cube Sweet and Sour Pork? No never seen any in Nottingham take away. They were all ball shape.  
 
Steak and Kidney pie? Great but u should provide together with mesh potato, mesh peas and rich gravey.  
 
Of course serving with English tea. No Lipton please.  
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The pork was boiled and then cut into cubes before seasoned then dipped in batter and fried which gave you the ball effect.  
 
Mash and mushy peas no problem !!  
 
English tea - PG Tips !!  
 
BTW - my family owned a Chinese Take Away and Fish and Chip shop for over 35 years in Manchester 8^)
daiwok
13-04-12
14:27:49
回覆 (35): Pink Triangle
SME V about 1986 I think.
mda
13-04-12
14:25:33
回覆 (34): Pink Triangle
I still regret that I saw one NOS pair of Goodmans LS3/5A walnut for GBP150 in Tottinham Court Road in late 1989 but I did not buy it because I have got the Harbeth already ..........
mda
13-04-12
14:23:57
回覆 (34): Pink Triangle
Steak and Kidney pie?  
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i remember when i firstt tried this. i just threw up. it never ceases to amaze me how awful this can be.
drwkng
13-04-12
14:23:36
回覆 (34): Pink Triangle
I think SME V was rolled out in mid or late 80s.
dkyyu
13-04-12
14:22:37
回覆 (34): Pink Triangle
 
> The total 6 items above would still cost around 90k secondhand today.<  
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Actually I still have all of them, only that the ARD D125 is in the US and the Fet10 phono is damaged!  
 
thekong
13-04-12
14:21:55
回覆 (33): Pink Triangle
Sota, SMEV, Maggie MG3A, Counterpoint SA5.1, Threshold Fet 10 phono and line, and ARC D125.......  
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Wow. Great life time experience. I envy you guys la. I could only read those big name from local audio magazines.  
 
The best highend demo I attended was hearing the Linn/Naim. Not even up to the level of the almighty Isobarik. I meant hearing only, no money buying.  
 
Another demo in Totenham Court Road who stole my heart completely was the ESL63 driven by QUAD own amp. I used to station there as "pond side crane" but never buying after school.
dkyyu
13-04-12
14:21:29
回覆 (34): Pink Triangle
Cube Sweet and Sour Pork? No never seen any in Nottingham take away. They were all ball shape.  
 
Steak and Kidney pie? Great but u should provide together with mesh potato, mesh peas and rich gravey.  
 
Of course serving with English tea. No Lipton please.  
 
mda
13-04-12
14:21:00
回覆 (33): Pink Triangle
Brits Gang Bang - Bangers and Mash and Fish and Chips on me at my place, or if you prefer Chop Suey  
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I prefer egg fried rice, sweet and sour pork (the normal UK style, not HK style) with source, or chips with curry source.  
 
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mda - Nottingham is posh !! me and Chi were almost in India living in Bradford surround by Curry Houses !!  
 
ok folks, Chips - I need some Lincon Maris Piper - best chips in the world !  
 
If you like chip shop style curry - no problem - any time ! Chip Butty with curry sauce is also very good. I also make very good chip shop style gravy !  
 
Boddingtons, Tetleys, Theakstons, Newcastle Brown - we need them all !!  
 
Steak and Kidney Pie ? well take a look at my beef bourguignon (with a bottle of merlot and splash of brandy) with a huge Yorkshire Pudding !  
 
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superb combo !!  
 
Now you also need some Apple Crumble with hot custard !!  
 
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Now if you guys prefer deep fried mars bars and UK style sweet and sour pork - also no issue as it is just deep fried in batter !  
 
mda - you prefer the cube style sweet and sour pork ? this is also easy.  
 
Egg Fried Rice with dark soya sauce - ok - lah !  
 
My own personal favourite - Chicken Mushroom 8^)  
 
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daiwok
13-04-12
14:15:06
回覆 (33): Pink Triangle
I was playing with Sota, SMEV, Maggie MG3A, Counterpoint SA5.1, Threshold Fet 10 phono and line, and ARC D125....... then  
 
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I do not mind one bit if I have got them now, let alone 25 years ago.  
 
The total 6 items above would still cost around 90k secondhand today.
mda
13-04-12
14:15:01
回覆 (32): Pink Triangle
Daiwok,  
 
Let's fix a good day and good time visiting your big lenco la. Will also invite some die hard vinyl lovers and the host of vinylparadise.com if you don't mind.  
dkyyu
13-04-12
14:11:52
回覆 (33): Pink Triangle
 
>While at university together, we were already listening to ATC, Pink, QUADS, Harbeth, Rogers, Gyrodecks, Mission, Exposure, Sumo, AVI, SME V, Isobarics, Tannoy, Audiolabs .......!! <  
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I was playing with Sota, SMEV, Maggie MG3A, Counterpoint SA5.1, Threshold Fet 10 phono and line, and ARC D125....... then!  
 
Yes, happy memories!  
 
thekong
13-04-12
14:10:54
回覆 (33): Pink Triangle
Daiwok, you were the RICH student.  
 
I thought it was very hard to get a demo with Harbeth and ATC in UK when I was there.  
 
I ordered a Harbeth LS3/5A in UK in 1989 when they caused quite a stir in HK with Golden String. The only place I knew where to get a pair was KJ WestOne in London.  
 
mda
13-04-12
14:10:19
回覆 (32): Pink Triangle
Mnnn should be sauce, not source .........
mda
13-04-12
14:04:57
回覆 (31): Pink Triangle
#21  
 
I prefer egg fried rice, sweet and sour pork (the normal UK style, not HK style) with source, or chips with curry source.  
 
Thank you!
mda
13-04-12
14:03:41
回覆 (31): Pink Triangle
3 motot Voyd because I was a student.  
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My first TT was a Linn Sondek LP12 from Scallywag 8^)  
 
While at university together, we were already listening to ATC, Pink, QUADS, Harbeth, Rogers, Gyrodecks, Mission, Exposure, Sumo, AVI, SME V, Isobarics, Tannoy, Audiolabs .......!!  
 
WOW - happy memories !!!
daiwok
13-04-12
14:03:31
回覆 (31): Pink Triangle
mda,  
 
You were a rich man of being a proud LP12 owner in the old days.  
 
I could have only dreamed of it. The Brits were in extreme poverty before Thatcher took over from Labour.
dkyyu
13-04-12
14:03:23
回覆 (31): Pink Triangle
 
Ah yes, I forgot to mention the Well Temper!  
 
While the look has nothing to call home about, it does have unique bearing designs for both the TT and the arm!  
 
The Well Temper, especially the arm, created quite I stir when it was introduced!  
 
thekong
13-04-12
14:02:26
回覆 (30): Pink Triangle
Linn has done his marketing and the Engineering of LP12 is very impressive in the showroom, with its outer platter and the close tolerane of the inner platter.  
 
But 9 out of 10 the so called single speaker demonstration the LP12 with the Naim / Linn combo was quite dire.  
 
I lived in Nottingham and I usually went to Sound Advice of Loughborough to purchase stuff. The shop owner Derek Whittington was one of the highest hand who could set up the LP12 well. I remembered that one day he gave me a demo of the Well Temper TT (the normal one, not the exotic reference) and it matched LP12 all the way. But when I looked at the WT itself I did not have the wish to p/x with my LP12.  
 
The problems of PT and Voyd were the marketing and the availability of the items. There were many rave review of them but it was very difficult to arrange a demo, let alone a home loan.  
 
When I visited the PT demo after a long careful arrangement, the first thing I noticed was the loose suspension. Then I realised the platter was not level and I remembered someone told me that levelling the platter was not an important factor when the music was alive. @@  
 
The praise of HP would have strong effects on the ranking of so called super heavy weight in USA. TAS never like LP12 becuse of its colouration (at least before the birth of Lingo). I thought LP12 has done a lot better in USA when JA became the editor of Stereophile. He used LP12 and promoted quite a lot in his articles.  
 
mda
13-04-12
13:49:05
回覆 (31): Pink Triangle
Is my accent, I mean curry sauce
bobui
13-04-12
13:47:10
回覆 (30): Pink Triangle
Brits Gang Bang - Bangers and Mash and Fish and Chips on me at my place, or if you prefer Chop Suey  
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Can I have a large chips with current sauce please? Oh! and a fried Mars bar please.  
 
New Castle for me and Boddingtons for you, Kong?  
 
You want a steak and kidney pie, Kong?
bobui
13-04-12
13:44:30
回覆 (30): Pink Triangle
 
>Seeing and hearing a Sota was like being invited by a blond to her room to fix a equation overnight! <  
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If that is true, I owned a blond for a number of years!  
 
In fact, I upgraded to a later generation blond, which is still staying in my house! Oh, this one does sucking too!  
 
They said blond has more fun, but this one just seems kind of boring :-(  
 
 
thekong
13-04-12
13:41:41
回覆 (29): Pink Triangle
It was all about Goldmund, Sota, Oracle and VPI etc  
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In 80s UK, seeing and hearing a Goldmund was like being invited to a dinner by Mrs. Thatcher at Downing Street!  
 
Seeing and hearing a Sota was like being invited by a blond to her room to fix a equation overnight!  
 
bobui
13-04-12
13:26:52
回覆 (29): Pink Triangle
 
Now Systemdek is into heavy and expensive turntable design!  
 
thekong
13-04-12
13:20:47
回覆 (28): Pink Triangle
3 motot Voyd because I was a student.  
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My first turntable as student was the Dual 501 with the mould plastic plinth which came with the arm in a package. It took me a few months to get the turntable running because I had to wait until I have money for a cartridge.  
 
Today, I am still keeping that same old faithful cartridge, an Ortofon VMS20. My girlfriend at the time sponsor me for that cartridge.  
 
My PT internal finishing dont look too good either. What the Linn has in those days that no other can even come any closer wasnt so much about its design or finishing. I think it was Linn open business mind with a willingness to expand beyond its founding item, the LP12. Arm, cartridge, speakers and then amps etc.  
 
When every other turntables were so concertrated on improving their initial designs. Linn spend his time on other components and when he didnt know how to work on a new component, he hire people or outsource to externals such as the Asaka and Ittok.  
 
Right?
bobui
13-04-12
13:18:14
回覆 (28): Pink Triangle
 
In the 80s, Hi End TT market in the US was quite different from that in the UK. It was all about Goldmund, Sota, Oracle and VPI etc. Then there was the Versa Dynamic, and even later the Rockport!  
 
thekong
13-04-12
13:12:38
回覆 (27): Pink Triangle
I had a Transotor AC in my collection as well ! it was stunningly beautiful and was made by the late Jon Mitchell - sadly I had to sell it :-(
daiwok
13-04-12
12:57:02
回覆 (26): Pink Triangle
>Talking about Dunlop, I like this Systemdek II - what about Ariston Q deck for the very poor folks like me ! @@<  
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I had the deluxe version of the Syetemdek II with the metal platter!  
 
thekong
13-04-12
12:51:38
回覆 (27): Pink Triangle
Mnnn. typo in #26. Should be construction not constriction.  
 
Dennis: So far so good with the EMT. Simple to operate and no fuss.
mda
13-04-12
12:50:10
回覆 (26): Pink Triangle
#12  
 
What I mean is the internal constriction of PT. I am sure I saw something not so impressive in the past and therefore I turned away and bought the LP12 in the late 80s instead of PT Too. PT was high on my agenda at that time because it was Martin Colloms reference turtable with SME V and I liked the arcylic platter.  
 
I also went to listen the cheap Voyd with 2 motors at that time but again I did not buy.  
 
There was no chance for me to consider the 3 motot Voyd because I was a student.
mda
13-04-12
12:47:53
回覆 (25): Pink Triangle
Dunlop has got a super turntable in the 80s called Systemdek IV with Arylic platter very much like PT,  
 
They do have a newer generation now but it is mega price.
mda
13-04-12
12:40:20
回覆 (24): Pink Triangle
Talking about Dunlop, I like this Systemdek II - what about Ariston Q deck for the very poor folks like me ! @@
daiwok
13-04-12
12:37:23
回覆 (23): Pink Triangle
http://thesourceturntable.blogspot.hk/search/label/Technical%20Specification
mda
13-04-12
12:30:23
回覆 (22): Pink Triangle
#20  
 
Is it the "source" turntable?  
 
If it is I heard one with the odyssey tonarm in Mr Doug Dunlop's home in Leciester. Mr Dunlop in Leciester is a well known ex-leak engineer who made high regarded tube amplifiers called Concordant.  
 
I took the HK made "Sound Audio" VP3 + HBP50a to his home to compare with his top of range tube pre and a modified Quad II. The preamp kicked off my VP3 within 10 seconds and the power amp did a bit better but still no match with his Quad overall.  
 
I took my Quad II for his modification but I have never afforded to buy one of his pre until a few years ago. The pre was still very impressive but the build was too "cottage" for my taste.
mda
13-04-12
12:30:10
回覆 (22): Pink Triangle
Swiss Precision  
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The Swiss contains all the good quality la! Take a good look inside a Studer/Revox, Nagra, Lenco or Stellavox and you know what I mean. The swiss even got the electronic running relaible in the old days!  
 
However, there is one insignificant detail missing in the German speaking Swiss which I hvae expereinced in the pass six years from my boss at work. They dont have ears lor!
bobui
13-04-12
12:25:35
回覆 (22): Pink Triangle
Here is an Aussie take from Once Analog. Vince the owner is a very nice guy and did a superb rebuild of the classic Lenco
http://www.onceanalog.com.au
daiwok
13-04-12
12:21:01
回覆 (21): Pink Triangle
You belt drive guys really want to go to Wadia's new audio den and hear what an idler wheel can really do ! its rather unfair to listen to idlers t my place but anyone is welcome.  
 
BTW Dennis, your welcome for a visit, since you have never been round to my place and this invitation also extends to mda and other fellow friends who lived in the UK before ! we an have a Brits Gang Bang - Bangers and Mash and Fish and Chips on me at my place, or if you prefer Chop Suey - that is also available ! 8^)
daiwok
13-04-12
12:12:42
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