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Sorry Derek2A3, here is the document I`ve promised to upload:  
 
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s1ceo2
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s1ceo2
SoulSonic
10-06-14
21:35:04
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Hello Kris,  
 
It is my pleasure to be able to help you guys, you`re all welcome!  
I can hardly wait to be kidnapped by forum Triad members, but be warned (if you have any intentions to keep me alive) that I`m a veggie man (vegetarian), but I believe this shouldn`t be a problem, since I`ve already enjoyed great Chinese vegetarian food here in Slovenia.  
OK, speaking of kids, I`ve decided to bring my daughter Nusa (14 years old) along with me, since I`ve already promised her, she would accompany me if I would ever go to Guangzhou (Hygeia), so this is another chance for me to redeem myself. Does any of you guys, have teenage kids? Never mind, she`s a great companion and she can mimic Arnold Schwarzenegger or Homer Simpson quite nicely.  
My son Timi has other things to do here in Slovenia and as for my wife Jasna, I will leave her at home with Nusa`s pit bull Zorro, to keep an eye on her.  
Well, that`s about it, when the speakers are finished, we will meet!
http://www.nusakrajnc.50webs.com/
SoulSonic
10-06-14
21:31:19
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Hello Miro,  
 
Thanks again for the elaboration on speakers design. Much appreciated! Limage is right about having you visiting HK, the only trouble is we may keep you for a while. Of course, eventually when the politeness wears out, you'll be obtained illegally or even against your will at times, but the food is always great! As part of our usual practice, we'll send a clear photo of you monthly to the kids back home in Slovenia (no worries, they'll remember you). Speaking of kids, don't make a big scene with the children before departure, just tell them you'll be home soon and give them lots of money.  
kris
10-06-14
08:00:20
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Hi Derek2A3,  
 
I am glad I gave you some food for thought.  
 
Regarding my experiments from my old site, I had to try them all to be able to find out their respective virtues and shortcomings, but it was a fun and I`ve learned a lot. Thankfully, this learning process actually never ends and that`s a good thing!  
 
Thanks!  
 
P.S.: below you will find a document about phase issues, I`ve uploaded it to a public server:
SoulSonic
10-06-12
20:09:25
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Hi Miro,  
 
Thanks for the detailed explanation on the other thread, have to say do give me inspiration. You might have to bare with us for a while, a bunch of amateurs.  
 
Checked out your site. I am pretty amazed with the different designs you have, from ribbon to horn, when most designers only focus on one type of drivers. Must have spent you a lot of time & effort building those, and a lot of fun too I guess. Keep up the good work.
Derek2A3
10-06-12
09:19:40
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Hello Ivan,  
 
thank you for your attention, you are most welcome to visit me here in Slovenia as well and I am sure it`s just a matter of time when we will meet.  
 
All the best, miro
SoulSonic
10-06-11
17:54:18
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My most grateful thanks for your in-depth explanation on the phase problems of speakers under the panel thread next door.  
 
If ever you happen to be traveling to the Far East, don't forget to drop in. You won't be disappointed.  
 
Ivan  
 
limage
10-06-11
12:02:17
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Good day Miro,  
 
While we are having some heated debate over the cross-over design of loudspeakers in the planar thread, can you please shed some light on the methods by which one can use to ensure the phase coherence of individual drivers in a speaker system?  
 
As a speaker producer, you must be in a better position than is anyone of us to advise on this issue.  
 
Yours truly with best regards,  
 
Ivan  
 
limage
10-06-10
20:03:24
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Hello Kris,  
 
these speakers were actually designed by a friend of mine Boris Kravanja, I have just contributed with driver selection, crossover development and a few other minor things. When we released them most audiophiles here in Slovenia mocked them to be like Barbapapa, a popular cartoon character and that discouraged us a lot.  
 
http://www.ludicer.it/barbapapà/  
 
We sold only one pair and if we ever resurrect them again, they will have a different midrange, perhaps a cone or a dome, or a different planar magnetic midrange.  
 
About the sensitivity request, the situation is quite simple: greater sensitivity gives less bass extension and vice versa. In the case of the "potato sacks" I believe it was around 86dB, but with an extension to 27Hz, which is not bad either.  
If higher sensitivity would be needed, then less low frequency extension would be result, probably around 50Hz or so. Please bear in mind I don`t like the usual manufacturers approach of claiming wild sensitivity figures for speakers that have no theoretical chances of achieving them. There are a great number of speakers on the market who claim extraordinary high sensitivity figures, but in reality you need to subtract 6 or even 10 dB, to get a realistic picture. There is always a chance to earn some good money with a nice product, but to earn some more with totally false claims is something that doesn`t fit into my philosophy.  
 
Under my SoulSonic brand I intend to develop at least three smaller models that would be completely my designs and I would like them to be great in every regard, sonically as well as aesthetically. The only problem is time and money.  
Actually, another problem is I would like introduce some technologies that might prove worth patenting of and this will require time.  
 
I have spent two decades quietly experimenting and gaining knowledge, on a few occasions I have contacted some manufacturers seeking job or their support and they all ignored me. After all these years I finally feel I`m ready to start some small scale business on my own and I feel like I`m gonna explode because of all these ideas that keep coming to the surface of my crazy mind.  
 
Kris, I will seriously consider your idea and try to make it happen.  
Thanks!  
 
P.S. By the way, I have added an omnipolar loudspeaker that was made for another customer, here in Slovenia, please check my old gallery and scroll down to the bottom. This speaker is a nice idea but it needs some refinement.
http://www.loudspeakers-by-miro.com/Gallery.html
SoulSonic
10-06-10
19:12:30
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Revel Ultima Salon.......
kris
10-06-10
09:31:11
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The "potato sacks" also echoed a little of Kevin Voceks' big success with Revel, his original Ultima and Performa series were like pieces of art, sonically and visually.  
 
Performa F-30
kris
10-06-10
09:29:35
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Kharma 3.2..........
kris
10-06-10
09:02:46
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These speakers were made for a friend of mine who had an idea to sell them commercially, but eventually he quit. They have HiVi Research drivers; planar magnetic midrange and tweeter and 8" cone for the bass, augmented by a 10" Dayton passive radiator at the back. I doubt we will ever make them, but I am open to any suggestions and requests.  
 
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Greetings Miro,  
 
During a recent dinner, someone again complimented on your design of these beauties. By the photos, they look to be about similar size to the Kharma 3.2, perfect for most HK apartments (my pal was also a Kharma user before). Knowing how busy you must be with the Soulsonic Impulse, keeping an open mind on further developing these "potato sacks" perhaps will bring fruitful harvest down the road beyond what you might expect. I for one, wouldn't mind having them around the den even just for looks:-)  
 
ps: 90+dB in sensitivity be great!  
 
 
kris
10-06-10
09:00:31
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Music that I also love:  
 
Tan Dun – On Taoism; Orchestral Theatre I; Death and Fire  
 
Chou Wen-Chung - Works by Chou Wen-Chung  
 
Iiro Rantala - Piano Concerto, Astorale, Tangonator, Final Fantasy  
 
Michael Wollny - Wunderkammer
SoulSonic
10-06-08
04:58:17
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Good morning,  
 
Van Cliburn is an amazing artist and the music is beautiful! Don`t tell anyone the recording is two years older than me.  
How about Gaspard de la nuit - Ondine, one of my favorite compositions:  
 
 
 
 
SoulSonic
10-06-08
04:38:24
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Good Morning friends,  
 
Soul Sonic, thanks for your kindness. I have been watching this historical video this morning. Hope you enjoy it too.  
 
tenfingers
10-06-07
10:45:26
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Hello tenfingers, I love your choice of not only classical music, but everything else as well.  
Thanks and all the best,  
miro
SoulSonic
10-06-07
08:26:54
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Morning everyone.  
 
Just dawned on me this morning that I've made a terrible error on SoulSonic being the first Westerner started a thread on PR1. It was actually Dr. Andrew Freris, Chairman of the HK Chopin Society for the Ashkenazy concert March this year. Andrew being a Hong Kong resident for such a long time, always thought of him as a local. So to revise this outrageous mistake, SoulSonic was the first to start a "hi-fi thread". And Andrew got balls too!  
 
Gentlemen, my sincere apology.
kris
10-06-07
08:26:32
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Hello Soul Sonic,  
 
Love the songs chosen by kris too.  
 
Hope you'll enjoy my choice of classical music.
tenfingers
10-06-07
01:49:59
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My pleasure, thanks Kris, Timi says thanks too!
SoulSonic
10-06-07
01:46:29
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Miro, thanks for the clip. Bravo!  
 
 
kris
10-06-06
08:44:26
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Places that I would like to discover (in no particular order); Guiling, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou. Some time ago I almost settled to work for Hygeia a company from Guangzhou, the maker of planar magnetic and ribbon drivers...
SoulSonic
10-06-06
04:23:57
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A few clips of my son Timi on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=timi+krajnc&aq=f
SoulSonic
10-06-06
01:51:23
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A few photos from my area, the hills of Pohorje. There are a few lakes on top of it, about 1500 m high. You can also see more photos at my forum:
http://www.audiodiy.org/viewtopic.php?p=3704#p3704
SoulSonic
10-06-06
00:38:14
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Actually, I must admit, I love Dao and Zen. Years ago I would read every book on Dao and Zen I could find, it all left great impact on me and the way I see things.
http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Ebooks/Osho_Books_on_Tao.htm
SoulSonic
10-06-05
23:35:48
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Yes, he is indeed a funny guy but I like his approach and I learned a lot from him, although I don`t agree with everything he says. But he is most definitely fun to read, I would say he is more like some Audio Osho, see below
http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Jokes/Jokes.htm
SoulSonic
10-06-05
23:30:24
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Romy is a funny guy !!!  
 
He has been classed as an Audio Nazi by some because he tells it as it is !! and sometimes the truth is not nice for some people to hear. He takes away all that glamour and demur which nearly all audio journalist do sadly.
daiwok
10-06-05
23:07:26
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Daiwok,  
 
horns are certainly worth to deal with, take for example Romy the Cat, he has probably taken horns to the 9th degree or even higher.  
You`re absolutely right, nothing is perfect but I live for those magical moments too!
http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?postID=11191#11191
SoulSonic
10-06-05
22:59:05
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Miro,  
 
Your speaker journey I too can related to, I am still persevering with my front horns and certainly over come some of the issues you have discussed below. However I admire that you are so open minded in finding that right speaker sound, there is nothing perfect, but when we get close its magical !
daiwok
10-06-05
22:37:46
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@ davwong, Slovakia was once a part of Czechoslovakia, but not Slovenia. The whole world finds it hard to differentiate between them two - never mind.  
 
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davwong, 3 months and you travelled so far !  
 
I have also been to Czechoslovakia but not Slovenia now I travel more to Shenzhen @[email protected]  
daiwok
10-06-05
22:34:53
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Indeed Kris, we are hopelessly ill hi-fi nuts, take me for example. About two decades ago I heard Apogee Diva in some Munich high end store, driven by some huge Krell monoblocks. In short, my jaw dropped, the sound was unlike anything I`ve heard before!  
That same day I heard the "fabulous" B&W Matrix 800 loudspeakers but compared to Apogee they sounded pathetic, I`ve heard no potential in their sound.  
Up to that point I believed expensive ordinary boxed speakers were all one could wish for and they were 99% of all the rant in the hifi publications all over the world.Imagine the surprise I experienced when for the first time being confronted to one of the best planar speakers of all time. Went on to hear some Duntechs, Infinity Gammas, etc, but nothing could compare to Divas. Years later heard Magnepan 20.1 and 1.6, same thing, impressive as hell!  
In the following years went to some High End exhibitions and visited many audiophiles` homes with ultra expensive systems, featuring famous boxed loudspeakers and...got bored.  
I was in a starting phase of my DIY loudspeaker era, I bought measurement system, simulation software, books, etc and went on to discover the amazing world of loudspeaker construction :-).  
I developed probably something like 200 different loudspeaker systems (hifi, studio monitors, PA), tried almost every imaginable box loading technique, crossover topology, dispersion pattern (monopolar, dipolar, omnipolar), you name it.  
 
Since tall ribbons weren`t available at that time, I used what was on hand and these were mostly ordinary dynamic domes and cones (OK, ribbons and planar magnetics are a form of dynamic driver too).  
I even experimented with a plasma tweeter that Bojan, a friend of mine has built, that we have put in an aluminum tractrix horn, but were not impressed. I mean, that darn thang reached beyond 30 kHz, but sounded somewhat thin, lacking "weight". OK, I know that was tweeter, but anyway it sounded shrill no matter how we tried to voice it (or integrate it into the system).  
 
From then on I tried every possible loudspeaker principle except the electrostatic one, but I heard a lot of those at my friends` places and I generally liked them, but hated the fact they are extremely tough load to drive.  
 
During all these years (dynamic drivers) loudspeaker industry kept telling me of the great advancements in the field of domes and cones and I believed them. They said you can get the same performance from a much smaller package so there is no need for tall planars. Also, corian and other high tech materials provide ideal conditions to build loudspeaker boxes that will make all these domes and cones perform miraculously. But every now and then when I would hear a dipole planar speaker in a good setup, I would get completely discouraged by my efforts.  
 
For example, I made some nice 3way speakers (see the link below from my diy forum)) that had some custom made (Hygeia) small format ribbon tweeters and planar magnetic midranges, with impressive bass slam and extraordinary high frequency extension and transparency, but once I compared them to some 20 year old Magnepan SMG model at my friends house I almost cried. Those old Magnepans simply pissed all over my boxes in almost every regard and most importantly in all those parameters that I cherish the most (coherency, involvement factor and long term listenability).  
 
I experimented with horn loaded speakers ala Avantgarde for two years (see my old site) and those were much more exciting than all boxed speakers, especially when driven by some triode low wattage amps - very sweet and engaging, but even with them, as soon as I would put classic piano or choral voices on them, they started to distort nastily (IM distortion). I didn`t like the idea to throw out the 3000 Euro triode amp out of the system and buy Audio Note for 200.000 Euros to fix the problems so eventually I got rid of them too.  
 
Two years ago I simply got fed up by all those dome tweeters, cone midranges and even small sized planar midranges and ribbon tweeters - it was a time to make my own tall planar magnetic and ribbon drivers.  
I experimented a lot, made a few dozens of planar magnetic and ribbon drivers and at the end decided I prefer true ribbons over planar magnetic drivers (magnetostat). I also made a tall trapezoid (Apogee like) planar magnetic bass panels and compared them to an array of 12" woofers in an open baffle.  
 
Out of all these experiments came the idea of SoulSonic...  
 
So, what I wanted to say is, I have thrown away almost twenty years of my life struggling with dynamic point source drivers in a box, just to find out I will never be able to achieve a level of performance I was after.  
If that ain't illness or just plain stupidity...  
Yes, sometimes I can be pretty naive too.
http://www.audiodiy.org/viewtopic.php?p=2009#p2009
SoulSonic
10-06-05
22:08:13
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OK, the valid link for the documentary about Slovenia is here, there are commercials at the beginning:  
 
http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos/20090113/paraisos-cercanos-eslovenia/381728.shtml
SoulSonic
10-06-05
18:24:03
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Good morning gentlemen,  
 
thank you Kris once again, I am deeply honored to be the first "westerner" to start a thread 1PekingRoad!  
Indeed, Slovenia is a beautiful country, it was among National Geograpic 2009 best rated places in the world (scoring 5th place), it has many beautiful places, tall mountains, a bit of Adriatic sea, beautiful lakes, etc.  
 
@ davwong, Slovakia was once a part of Czechoslovakia, but not Slovenia. The whole world finds it hard to differentiate between them two - never mind.  
 
Oddly enough, one of the best documentaries about Slovenia was made by TV España, see the link below:
http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/todos/ultimos/index.html#381728
SoulSonic
10-06-05
18:08:28
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Slovenia is not in China.  
 
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it was part of Czechoslovakia when i visited Ljubljana & Zagreb back in 1998, which was part of my journey wandering in europe alone for over 3 months.  
 
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icefox,  
 
luckily no one recongise i made a typo yet :-)  
 
1998 should read 1989  
 
Ljubljana & Zagreb were in Yugoslavia.  
 
i did no know any emt, garrard at that moment (partly because i was a poor student), even i spent that summer holiday during the school break and travelled on the tran-siberian railway for 7 days/nights from peking to moscow right after the June 4th, i did not stop in UK cause they were very cautious to the HongKonger at that moment, therefore no chance to meet the legendary garrrard. i did stopped in germany & swiss for quite a while but no one tell me what is emt or thorens.  
 
it was rather exciting, or romanic? if you prefer it.  
 
 
 
davwong
10-06-05
12:38:15
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Made in Slovenia.......
kris
10-06-05
12:27:25
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wandering in europe alone for over 3 months.  
 
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Wow! Searching for EMT, Garrard & Thorens parts??? That's serious affair, you are so romantic! ^__*  
icefox
10-06-05
10:31:17
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Slovenia is not in China.  
 
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it was part of Czechoslovakia when i visited Ljubljana & Zagreb back in 1998, which was part of my journey wandering in europe alone for over 3 months.  
 
davwong
10-06-05
10:24:46
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Made in Slovenia.......
http://www.soulsonicspeakers.com/index.html
kris
10-06-05
09:49:02
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Slovenia
kris
10-06-05
09:31:04
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Morning everyone,  
 
 
Being the first "westerner" to start a thread on 1PekingRoad marks the beginning of a new era (and proves that Miro got balls!), we are once again reminded of the vitality of internet, linking hopelessly ill hi-fi nuts (or just lonely and perverted people in general) far and wide with the exciting promise of a more complex and difficult future. 1PekingRoad has no requirements on members except to be "real" and the participation from them continues to play an important role in guiding our direction to remain off course. As the SoulSonic story unfold from Slovenia, I'm almost certain that along the way, we shall have the privilege to taste (even just a small piece) what life is like in Miro's beautiful homeland. I look forward to that very much! Last and not least in celebrating our new cultural diversity, and to answer our readers' mail in advance - Slovenia is not in China.  
 
Congratulation Miro!
kris
10-06-05
09:25:09
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