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Home Trial Reservation List  
 
1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 24/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
3. 3/1 or 4/1 - 18/1 CP  
4. 18/1 - 2/2 Chi Ng  
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6. 16/2 - 28/2 Icefox  
7.  
 
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dkyyu,  
dkyyu
11-12-21
20:44:58
回覆 (19): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
Home Trial Reservation List  
 
1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 24/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
3. 3/1 or 4/1 - 18/1 CP  
4. 18/1 - 2/2 Chi Ng  
5. 3/2 - 17/2 Icefox  
6.  
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dkyyu,  
 
A session after 15 Feb would be better.
icefox
11-12-21
16:09:22
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Home Trial Reservation List  
 
1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 24/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
3. 3/1 or 4/1 - 18/1 CP  
4. 18/1 - 2/2 Chi Ng  
5. 3/2 - 17/2 Icefox  
6.  
dkyyu
11-12-21
14:58:31
回覆 (18): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
Home Trial Reservation List  
 
1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 24/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
3. 3/1 or 4/1 - 18/1 CP  
4. 18/1 - 2/2 Chi Ng  
5. 3/2 - 17/2 Icefox  
6.  
dkyyu
11-12-21
14:58:30
回覆 (22): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
How about a home trial?  
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Sure, may be you can book me a session around the mid Feb time. Thanks.
icefox
11-12-21
11:48:57
回覆 (21): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
Daiwok,  
 
No la, you first  
 
I'll be the last one on the list.  
 
Please tell me your preferred interval. I suppose 2 week time each is adequate to cover every of us. The new BRR is definately better than my MK2 after my brief listen, but how much it is better to justify its price tag I still have to find out yet.
dkyyu
11-12-21
11:22:47
回覆 (20): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
I don't mind being last on the list, I could use a decent attenuator for my crossover
daiwok
11-12-21
10:55:56
回覆 (19): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
Dear icefox,  
 
How about a home trial?
dkyyu
11-12-21
10:17:40
回覆 (18): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
Non MFA or active preamp members are also welcomed for jhome trial. Don't hesitate to call me for arrangement.  
 
PS: I don't make living on selling or promoting MFA product.
dkyyu
11-12-19
11:28:29
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Home Trial Reservation List  
 
1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 24/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
3. 3/1 or 4/1 - 18/1 CP  
4. 18/1 - 2/2 Chi Ng  
5.  
6.  
dkyyu
11-12-18
22:00:27
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Sharp Eye.  
 
Home Trial Reservation List  
 
1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 24/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
3. 3/1 or 4/1 - 18/1 CP  
4.  
5.  
6.  
 
dkyyu
11-12-17
23:10:18
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1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 17/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
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Dkyyu,  
 
Is David living together with Richard?  
 
 
 
cpsjj
11-12-17
22:13:56
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Home Trial Reservation List  
 
1. 18/12 - 24/12 David Wong  
2. 17/12 - 3/1 Richard Lau  
3. 3/1 or 4/1 - 18/1 CP  
4.  
5.  
6.  
 
You are free to extend trial period or reserve a second trial session.  
 
Happy Listening  
dkyyu
11-12-17
18:20:38
回覆 (14): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
Dear Thomas,  
 
No problem indeed. We like hearing more opinion and feedback. Any discussion or sharing is welcomed.
dkyyu
11-12-15
21:47:32
回覆 (13): Music First Audio Baby Reference (BBR)
mda,  
 
"""http://upload.review33.com/2ndhand/201112/201112151025421658.jpg"""  
 
Is it possible to take a pic of the inside of this TVC? Thanks in advance.  
 
 
dkyyu,  
 
""""However, it does not work in true balance........."""  
 
""""Our products are true transformer balanced design so the balanced output is a true balanced output """  
 
That was precisely what I was told yesterday when we were using 2 Dignity to drive 2 individual power amp per channel in full balance mode. I did not check it myself. My apology to MFA for quoting this unfounded statement.  
 
Please also excuse me that I am usually not fond of commenting on the sound of certain product. I am more interested in discussing technical or practical stuff. I firmly believe that the volume control must be the most important part in a preamp, but yet, I couldn't figure it out how much should be spent on the, imo, the even more important parts in a sound system such as the listening room, the loudspeakers, the power amp, the sound source etc. if a volume control could have already cost 80K (may be 60K after discount). I must be too rational to be a hifi fan.  
 
 
Dr King,  
 
"""... it is a bargain comparing to most interconnects^-^"""  
 
So 葉繼歡 is just a lamb since there was 張子強?
ThomasC2
11-12-15
21:15:14
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As the King of DIYer, Dr King is speaking out the difficulty in running a high-end audio business in such a niche market. I guess it's not easy to sell a passive product at HK$80K, but I really appreciate someone is doing the development and all the hardwork to entertain this small segment.  
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that is easy. just lose your integrity. with HK$80,000 a pop, i would have thought they can afford to give you something better than cheap CMC RCA connectors^-^
drwkng
11-12-15
19:53:31
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As the King of DIYer, Dr King is speaking out the difficulty in running a high-end audio business in such a niche market. I guess it's not easy to sell a passive product at HK$80K, but I really appreciate someone is doing the development and all the hardwork to entertain this small segment.  
 
dkyyu
11-12-15
18:58:34
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Icefox,  
 
MFA will only offer copper type for their reference series. They will offer options such as remote control, etc at extar cost.  
 
My god, my mouth is speaking akin toMFA dealer. Please directly deal with UK MFA if any order placing.
dkyyu
11-12-15
18:54:08
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Dear icefox  
 
I wrote 2 months ago and understand from the manufacturer that, all their Baby Reference or it's senior, the Reference are copper transformer. They have never made any silver reference or BBR yet.  
 
You just brought up a good point, will MFA make a silver type in near future? I hope MFA will tell us more of their product development road map.
dkyyu
11-12-15
18:49:25
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Dear Thomas,  
Thanks for sharing. I understanding our friends from MFA is also reading 1pekingroad.com. MFA wishes to make correction as follows:  
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Balance connection is available on that BBR. However, it does not work in true balance. It just allows you to use balance internection like many other amps with balance sockets do. Half of the balance signal supplied to the BBR will just be directed to earth"  
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Feedback from the manufacturer, Harry from MFA:  
 
This is not correct. Our products are true transformer balanced design so the balanced output is a true balanced output (pin 1 ground, pin 2 hot and pin 3 cold). Also if the input is unbalanced, the transformer will convert this if the balanced output is used, IE, in converts in both directions which is very helpful in many circumstances.  
 
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I don't make living on any audio product including MFA. It just happens to me their product fits my system most and I wish to collect more opinion before any commitment on a pre-amp well beyond my budget.  
 
Please don't hesitate to share, whether poor or good comment is welcome. I believe our friends from UK are gentlemen and they would appreciate any feedback from members in 1Pekingroad.  
 
 
 
dkyyu
11-12-15
18:44:03
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Tell me which highway.........  
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Take the PR1 autobahn which is reasonably safe, no speeding tickets, no highway patrol, no penalties nor even congestion. Just occasional collisions ended in serious gluttony.  
 
limage
11-12-15
15:00:36
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Although I could not afford the $80k plus TVC, in response to the BBR, I am buying this one instead.  
 
http://upload.review33.com/2ndhand/201112/201112151025421658.jpg  
 
This unit may not even be better than the MK1 (which I had owned in the past) but the feedback from the user group seems positive. Also I was an ex-user of Wu's product and again no complaint at all. The 2nd hand price is very affordable too (25% of he 2ndhand of MK1).
mda
11-12-15
14:43:56
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This is highway robbery!!!  
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Dr Feikeung,  
 
Tell me which highway in a hifi journey there is no robbery; only the one leading to Avici.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
cpsjj
11-12-15
14:28:54
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This is highway robbery!!!  
 
feikeung
11-12-15
13:23:58
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Quality/workmanship of the chassis work can't hardly even meet my diyer standard,  
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this is a very good marketing tactics. the reason why they charge you so much and yet give you shitty chassis is that all the money goes into what is inside. if they have to give you decent chassis, they'll have to charge you a couple of millions. being a honest to god manufacturer, they can't do that. this is called business ethnics^-^  
 
 
 
All the four participants were of this same opinion : Couldn't understand how this thing could worth HK$80,000+ May be we are just the cheap guys  
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audio equipment purchase is very seldom a rational decison. as long as the buyer derives pleasure out of it who are we to question. we can call them BT but if they can afford to be a BT, more the power to them. in fact the MFA is very cheap. considering the length of wire that is in there. if you work out the cost per meter, it is a bargain comparing to most interconnects^-^
drwkng
11-12-15
13:15:54
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There is a red BBR showing in R33 which simply looks stunning.  
 
But the price is very steep although the unit is life-time maintenance free and the manufacturer is claiming 100% improvement (and with my expereince no single component in the old model would yield 100% improvement to the new model).
mda
11-12-15
09:33:56
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dennis,  
 
May I ask a question, for the BBR, are the transformer silver or copper? Do they offer any option on material at all now for the BBR?
icefox
11-12-15
00:10:00
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A closer look.
ThomasC2
11-12-14
23:58:57
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The one I heard this afternoon is indeed marked "Baby Reference Pre amplifier" on its face, which is black. It is said to be the newest and the most expensive one among the 3(??) models available. As I said, msrp is over HK$80,000.  
 
Yes, the others are Dignity. You need a pair to make them working in balance mode. However, they will then work turely in balance mode (and we also tried this to drive 2 power amp per channel this afternoon). Balance connection is available on that BBR. However, it does not work in true balance. It just allows you to use balance internection like many other amps with balance sockets do. Half of the balance signal supplied to the BBR will just be directed to earth.
ThomasC2
11-12-14
23:52:31
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CP,  
 
I am still working late in my office. Will do tomorrow.
dkyyu
11-12-14
23:29:35
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Dennis,  
 
Is your Baby Reference any different from the one Thomas showed? The one in the picture clearly showed it is a Baby Reference Preamplifier. Can you post a pic of yours?  
 
 
cpsjj
11-12-14
23:26:59
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Thomas,  
 
I may be wrong, I saw a small print " Baby reference" in the photo. If my sight is correct, then this must be the first and earlier one in HK. How does it compare to the Canadian rival selling at $40K or a little bit more for a pair?
dkyyu
11-12-14
23:23:12
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Thomas, I believe, the one in your photo is MK1 dressed in blue plate. Itt's the entry level MFA product but sound very good IMO. You can fetch one of these MK1 for 12K-15K HK in second hand market.  
 
The BBR now grasped under my arms is the first unit the manufacturer sent over to HK. It theirm latest product launch earlier this year. Never been to HK before. I have the honour they me a unti for home trial.  
 
MFA claimed that the BRR is 100% better their Mk1. Would you believe it? With more opinions from more field trial users, we can find out more from this little beauty.  
 
The other 3 passive unit aside in your photo look like something from the Dignity Audio. You need 2 of these units to operate in balance stereo mode, I suppose. Am I right?
dkyyu
11-12-14
23:20:39
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The one on the lower left hand side?  
 
Just had a chance to audition it and another 2 local made TVC for a few hours this afternoon. Said to be retailed at HK$80,000+ .  
 
Quality/workmanship of the chassis work can't hardly even meet my diyer standard, not to say drwkng's or mdlover's expectation.  
 
All the four participants were of this same opinion : Couldn't understand how this thing could worth HK$80,000+ May be we are just the cheap guys.
ThomasC2
11-12-14
22:52:50
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David,  
 
No worry, MFA won't charge your home trial anything. I may come up with different opinion if given with longer listening period. So you better hear it yourself first and tell us how poor or how good the BBR is slotted in your own system.  
 
MFA's Harry claims, if MK2 is 20% better than Mk1, the Ref or BBR should be 100% better than the Mk1. How could you or me or any other MFA user resist a free home trial opportunity to testify his claim. A 60% improvement would turn me in to buy their BBR, but frankly my problem is I've over spent all my next year leisure budget in last 2 months. I need to see my bank manager fairly soon.  
 
You should not be in big trouble as MFA won't sell you this demo unit as CP and icefox are closely watching your back. I would say "Out of sight, out of mind" at the beginning though my mind has now changed after my first date with BBR this morning. So I prefer sending the BBR to you guys first to keep me out of my mind.  
 
good luck.
dkyyu
11-12-14
20:27:12
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but the BBR cost no less than gbp 5,000.00 each, man!  
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it is not a BBR. it is a WBT^-^
drwkng
11-12-14
20:00:31
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but the BBR cost no less than gbp 5,000.00 each, man!
davwong
11-12-14
19:46:27
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CP and David,  
 
I must confess that I hook up the MK2 and BBR for a brief comparison this morning before I left to office. I must forewarn you gentlemen that I heard a huge improvement from the BBR after playing a local CD in the first 10 seconds.
dkyyu
11-12-14
18:16:12
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CP and David,  
 
Will hold to David in coming 2 weeks and will deliver to CP before 28/12.  
 
dkyyu
11-12-14
18:12:23
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Dennis,  
 
I can have it for 2 weeks after the New Year. Thanks.  
 
 
cpsjj
11-12-14
14:07:40
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