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回覆 (756): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
Costs aside, I suspect most acoustic engineers don't know much about music, let alone how it should be properly and musically reproduced.  
 
I wonder what they actually learn in studying this subject since we did not have this discipline in the old days. I guess students of acoustics would have to learn what sound wave is all about and in particular, in application, they would also learn how to stop sound wave propagation in order to create a quieter working environment. They are supposed to specialize in designing noise controlled concourses, factories, offices and possibly domestic premises.  
 
As such, acoustic engineers are actually moving in the wrong direction when designing concert halls and by the same token, music rooms in general. What we need is good propagation of the sound of music, not damping or isolation.  
 
By the way, I've heard quite a few music rooms with very elaborate acoustic treatment. They all have one thing in common — dry, detached and sorely lacking in both definition and dynamic contrasts.  
 
 
limage
14-06-19
15:17:02
回覆 (755): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
they only design what they want and what they like  
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and charge what they want and what they like.  
 
 
bobui
14-06-19
11:38:32
回覆 (754): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
I would most designers have hearing problems, they only design what they want and what they like, without listening to their clients' demands.
Derek2A3
14-06-19
10:14:38
回覆 (753): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
Here comes the lesson:  
 
You may ask acoustic engineers to design your factory, your office your bedroom or even your toilet, but never your music room!  
 
limage
14-06-18
16:19:03
回覆 (752): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
CKM,  
 
Your finding serves to further confirm the rumour that the Cultural Hall only sounds good without audience!  
 
This is highly probable because when the acoustic engineers plotted their graphs, the hall was empty. The subsequent design was based on these graphs and hence we have a hall which is awful when fully seated.  
 
limage
14-06-18
15:45:36
回覆 (751): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Limage,  
 
You have attended a concert in Victoria Hall? I am you you enjoy the wonderful acoustic there.  
 
Recently, I attended a almost empty seated concert in culture centre, the program was a tpyical `box office ' poison which include music by Messiaen, Canteloube and Sibelius. But surprising, the sound was full and projected well to my seat high at the balcony.  
 
Probably , 10% full concert is the best time to enjoy great music and great acoustic.
CKM
14-06-18
12:53:31
回覆 (750): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
"The Old Vic"
bobui
14-06-17
18:17:05
回覆 (749): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
This Victoria Hall has me inspired as to how the recordings should be properly reproduced at home — very warm but tautly rhythmic, detailed and yet breathtakingly dynamic. No wonder that Roy Wallace chose this hall for a series of Stravinsky's masterpieces back in the late 50's. I used to think that our City Hall ought to be able to set a good live music standard not knowing that in comparison, it is still lean by at least quite a few decibels.  
 
There is no way to tell which is more correct I am afraid, but the overwhelming warmth and body certainly give music a collateral sense of attraction.  
 
 
 
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limage
14-06-17
14:23:04
回覆 (748): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
The trio playing was not smooth but the orchestra were way more sensitive (in good terms) in the Emperor Adagio which must have been one of my most look foward moment of the night. Temple is a bit too fast but that is more of a personal taste and the pianist style. Mistakes, not meant to be something the listener should be so picky about but when there were so many. Emmmmm, you start to question lor!  
 
I am gald I got the ticket and went as it was only the second time so far i got to hear Beethoven Emperor No.5 live.  
 
The Dovark was well performed. I like ar!  
 
Chopin coming and you know the big day on the violin rectial when everyone will be attending. Sorry no more ticket la! Too late!  
 
A night at the opening of the HKPO Gala, 06/09/2013
bobui
13-09-08
17:49:15
回覆 (747): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Sure you have seen this performance la! Nevertheless, worth paying a regular visit every now and then!  
 
Cheerful!  
 
bobui
13-08-10
19:53:11
回覆 (746): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Other than the Beethoven Piano Concerto 5, this very popular Symphony will be performed on the same night.  
 
Dvorak, The New World - Allegro  
 
bobui
13-07-28
10:32:51
回覆 (745): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Beethoven Piano Concerto 5 Emperor in Hong Kong, piano by Jean Y Thibaudet  
6&7 Sept 2013  
 
Get your tickets before too late! Once in a life time ar!  
 
Of course you know this better than me la! But here is one reminder of the very romantic 2nd movement fromthe Emperor that were also in a recent film "The King's Speech".  
 
Conduct and play by Barenboim  
 
 
http://www.hkphil.org/eng/concerts_and_ticket/concerts/concertdetail.jsp?id=372
bobui
13-07-24
19:25:36
回覆 (744): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Familar programme, not the most reputable musicans but more than good enough for a musical night out. Reasonable price! Get tickets before too late!  
 
HK City Concert Hall 18/7/2013  
Beethoven Piano Concertos, John Lill  
Beethoven Triple Concertos.  
 
Link:  
http://www.hksl.org/media_room/press_release_detail/22  
 
bobui
13-06-12
10:23:44
回覆 (743): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
Just a few words about the Rite of Spting by the HK Phil.  
The first part of the programme was Mozart's Sym 31 and Chopin's Les Sylphides.  
These were the appertizers ,light, sweet and easy listening. HKPO did not fail to entertain, though there were some minor blemishes.  
The second half was the main course, La Sacre de Printemps. Under the baton of the conductor of Russian origin HKPO gave it all out with no holding back. The playing was as raw and savage as the score demanded. The brass and woodwinds did their duty in bombarding our aural sense especially during the loud passages.Performance like this helped me to understand why The Rite is the most important work of the 20th century, and who dare to say the HKPO is a second tier orchestra. As an audiophile hearing such fire-power and dynamic swing was just an ear opening experience. For recording I always like the version by Solti and CSO, like its rawness and savageness and the recording quality. I should say the performance by HKPO last Sat. came close to this Solti recording.  
kh33
13-06-06
12:16:27
回覆 (742): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
A DGG recording  
 
Horowitz took no notice of the conductor Giulini. Horowitz: "I can do it like this and you can do your version". There seems to be zero or little reharsal before the actual recording. Horowitz just sat at the piano and played whatever he feels like and hardly took a glaze at the conductor. Horowitz changed the end of the first movement so much that no one knew what to do! See the Revox Studer recorders in the recording room?  
 
Well, put it this way, his second movement is a sheer beauty! Very touching! Around 27 to 32 mins  
 
 
bobui
13-05-24
14:14:41
回覆 (741): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Impromptus, total of 8 from Schubert. Here is one for the fans of Horowitz. Brilliant music when you consider Impromptus were writen by the spirit of the moment, free form composition.  
 
Dont be surprise if you hear your son or daughter practice this piece at home!  
 
bobui
13-05-24
13:44:40
回覆 (740): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
Jaap van Zweden was the youngest concertmaster of the Concertgebouw before he became the conductor. After listening to this CD, I think he makes a much better conductor than a violinist.  
 
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cpsjj
13-05-14
10:35:37
回覆 (739): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
... then there is eBay ...  
Acutually there is a pre-own disc out there, $15 but only VG++, need to think about it. I think my dsic is still EX.  
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHS-Stereo-GERARD-POULET-Plays-Violin-Favorites-V-VG-/380314716960?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item588c860b20
Cadiver
13-05-14
01:01:56
回覆 (738): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
My first Classical LP is the Chipon 1st Concerto E minor by Zimerman and Kondrashin in DG. It's still and will be for a very long time my most played and loving LP. In recent years, I have obtained a second copy, just in case, you know what I mean.  
 
Now you got thinking of my very first girlfriend lor!  
 
 
bobui
13-05-13
18:12:09
回覆 (737): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
One of my favorite violin lp. I probably listen to this disc more often than anything else I own in the past 35+ years. Not hi-fi, just comfort food. I wish I have a couple backup copies ... Are there CD reproduction for Music Heritage ?
Cadiver
13-05-13
14:06:59
回覆 (736): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Thanks for the recommendations, Cpsjj. There certainly more Cello and Viola interpretations than Arpeggione lor!  
 
bobui
13-05-11
11:07:54
回覆 (735): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
There are quite a few viola versions too, here's one of the better.  
 
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I also got the flute and clarinet versions.  
 
 
cpsjj
13-05-11
10:28:32
回覆 (734): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Never seen an Arpeggione in my life. Its a six strings instrument, whereas the Cello is a four strings instrument.  
 
The Cello is a member of the violin family. The Arpeggione belongs more towards a guitar but bowed like a Cello. Size of the Arpeggione is a little smaller than a Cello. Its range covers only 4 octaves.  
 
As for the Schubert Arpeggione Sonata, it almost exclusively played on a Paino with Cello only.  
 
Where is my G-String?  
 
bobui
13-05-11
10:15:42
回覆 (733): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
Yet another round of RCA Living Stereo reissue on it's way. Is it good news or bad news ? This round will be remastered by Ryan Smith at Sterling Sound
http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&searchtext=Any&labelid=4868&OrderBy=4&ResultsPerPage=50
Cadiver
13-05-11
07:04:30
回覆 (732): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
My friend here in Toronto, Lawrence Lock, recently brought me a gift from HK. The box set also carries the Schubert Arpeggione. A great deal with very decent sound.  
Imagine the amount of $$$ to collect those original DGG vinyl LPs!
davidchan
13-05-10
20:33:47
回覆 (731): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
excellent in playing and recording quality, even on Youtube, available in Teldec label.  
 
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Teldec rarely makes excellent recording.  
 
 
limage
13-05-10
17:47:40
回覆 (730): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Shafran's recording is really impressive, highly recommend. In good sound too
CKM
13-05-10
17:43:21
回覆 (729): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
My personal favourite of the Arpeggione is the version by Miklos Perenyi and Andras Schiff; excellent in playing and recording quality, even on Youtube, available in Teldec label.  
 
 
 
 
cpsjj
13-05-10
17:28:39
回覆 (728): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
If you feel the version of Schubert Arpeggione Sonata by Rostropovich/Britten expensive there are 'cheaper versions' which are equally impressive, such as that by Daniil Shafran/Lydia Pecherskaya. In fact I like the Shafran playing more.  
 
kh33
13-05-10
17:00:32
回覆 (727): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
If you happen to have a copy of the original Decca LP, Schubert Rostropovich, Britten SXL 6426. Cong la! The average selling price through web is roughly USD1,000.
bobui
13-05-10
11:16:22
回覆 (726): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
lovely!  
 
bobui
13-05-09
16:56:50
回覆 (725): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Agreed no less!  
 
Ahhhhhh! Chopin concerto E minor! Ahhhhhhhhhh! AHHHHHHHH! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
bobui
13-05-03
22:51:43
回覆 (724): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Agreed.  
Have great expectation for both the performer and programme.  
 
kh33
13-05-03
20:18:29
回覆 (723): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
I have to scream, the program are so exicting:  
 
[url]http://www.hkphil.org/hkphil-1314-Brochure/index.html[/url]  
 
We have:  
 
Lorin Maazel Conduct Wagner without words and Britten's War requiem !!!  
 
Ashkenazy/Gabetta play Elgar Cello Concerto and Mossorgsky Picture at an exbition.  
 
Ohlsson play Brahms piano concerto no.2, his last performance of Brahms piano concerto no.1 is thrilling.  
 
Louis Lortie play Chopin Piano concerto no.1  
 
Bach's St Matthew Passion !!!  
 
Ravel Daphnis et chloe by great conductor Carlo Rizzi  
 
Beloved Chinese Violinist Ning Feng play Beethoven Violin concerto, Zweden conduct Shostakovish's symphony no.5.  
 
Chen Sa in Beethoven Piano concerto no.3  
 
Mendelssohn Mid summer Night's dream complete by great conductor Nicolas McGegan  
 
Modern/Contempory work:  
 
My beloved Piazzolla, this time side by side with Vivaldi to present 8 season from both hemisphere.  
CKM
13-05-03
19:20:28
回覆 (722): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
There are quite a number of great readings of Dvorak B-minor concerto.  
Of course DuPre is one of them. For lady cellist there is another one I like, Angelica May with Vaclav Neumann,a very down to earth interpretation.  
 
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kh33
13-04-29
18:10:41
回覆 (721): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Don't brother about the A Major, it is a immature work far inferior to B minor concerto.  
 
Listened to some other Cello concerto listed instead.
CKM
13-04-29
12:18:55
回覆 (720): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
 
CKM,  
 
I've never heard the A major by Dvorak but his B minor had me bowled over several times under the spell of Du Pre's breathtaking cello.  
 
limage
13-04-29
11:34:39
回覆 (719): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
 
Dvorak probably was not satisfied with his A-major concerto. Therefore he did not finish it or allow it to get published. After listening to the performance by Isserlis I understand why . His B-minor concerto is much better. Perhaps it is against the composer's wish that this piece be played in front of the public.  
kh33
13-04-29
10:53:18
回覆 (718): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
Agree your comment on Isserlis.
ken1967
13-04-28
23:01:49
回覆 (717): 古典音樂版本比拼擂台
SMETANA  
The Bartered Bride  
orchestral excerpts  
DVOŘÁK  
Cello Concerto in A, B10  
BRAHMS  
Symphony No.2  
 
Conductor: Jahja Ling  
Cellist: Steven Isserlis  
 
The concert opened with three dance from Smetana's The Bartered Bride, the music are rarely heard but delightful and tuneful, HKPO warm up early and make these pieces really dance.  
 
Then we have our renowned Cellist Steven Isserlis playing Dvorak's Cello concerto, but not the B minor one we commonly associated with Dvorak, instead it is a reconstruction by modern composer on Dvorak's manuscript. Compare between the two, the B minor cello concerto is a much more matured work while the A major concerto performed last night lack memorable melody and exciting moments. However, this program represented HKPO's and Isserlis determination to perform some lesser known Cello concerto other then the common heard Dvorak B minor's concerto, Tchaikovsky's Roccoco variation and Elgar's Cello concerto, which I heard almost every other season. I sincerely hope that HKPO can perform some other mature Cello concertos, like Haydn, Boccherini from Classical period, Lalo, Saint-Saens and Schumann from romantic period, Shostakovich and Prokofiev and Britten from Modern period and finally Lutoslawski from comtempory composers, which was unfortunately neglected in concert hall of Hong Kong. Steven Isserlis tried his best, but cannot drill blood from stones.  
 
The second freatured a leisurely and lyrical Brahms symphony no.2, the reading was sunny, energetic and dynamic, this was my first concert experience of this work and I heard much more detail then I expected from recordings. Melanocholy, however was the element lacking in Ling's reading. As Jaap is known as the specialist in Brahms, I eagarly await Mastro Jaap von Zweden `live' completely Brahms cycle with HKPO, better include the concertos as well  
CKM
13-04-28
11:49:59